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Article on separation of religion from the state. 
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/peter-g ... _hp_ref=uk

A very interesting article about a conference made up of lots of people a number of Muslims and former Muslims on the danger that they feel is very real from radicalized Islam and its attempts to enact Sharia Law in parts of UK infrastructure and then the argument of greater separation of Religion from the State and much more religious freedoms.

It's a very good little piece in my opinion, and something I could support as it would lead the way for the ULC to be recognized which over here it currently isn't. But a good read any thoughts?

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I strongly believe in the separation of the state and the church. In any secular government we must keep the church away from the state. Even though I strongly believe this, the church will always try to interfere in government issues.

There is another important issue also. People who migrate to democratic countries have to understand what democracy means. They reach our countries and think that everything is as it was in their original country. If they do not like our democratic/secular countries, they should be asked to go back to their countries. We do not need their violence nor their fanatism.

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To paraphrase one of Robert A. Heinlein's characters, "A government supported church is an incompetent whore."

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Separation must be absolute.

Church is church and the government is the government.

People need the right to believe in their own way and create new churches as they need.

Over here, when the Anglican/Episcopalian church started ordaining women, some conservative people left the church and moved to more conservative churches.
Same thing when the Anglican/Episcopalian church started ordaining gay people.

Many moved into the (conservative) Lutheran churches, and some to the Catholic.
It was a painless, quiet operation. And it was rather seamless for many.

No one was killed, no one was blown up.
And people kept going to church. Albeit a different church, but church nevertheless!

During the Middle Ages we had religion of the state in the Western World and it led to the Inquisition and the Crusades.
Unfortunately, the Muslim world (IMO) is still in the Middle Ages.
Religion and State go together.
Religion and Literature go together.
Religion and Culture go together.
Religion and male rights and lack of women's rights go together.
It was once like that for the Western World. But we are in a different place now.


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Lannah wrote:
Separation must be absolute.

Church is church and the government is the government.

People need the right to believe in their own way and create new churches as they need.

Over here, when the Anglican/Episcopalian church started ordaining women, some conservative people left the church and moved to more conservative churches.
Same thing when the Anglican/Episcopalian church started ordaining gay people.

Many moved into the (conservative) Lutheran churches, and some to the Catholic.
It was a painless, quiet operation. And it was rather seamless for many.

No one was killed, no one was blown up.
And people kept going to church. Albeit a different church, but church nevertheless!

During the Middle Ages we had religion of the state in the Western World and it led to the Inquisition and the Crusades.
Unfortunately, the Muslim world (IMO) is still in the Middle Ages.
Religion and State go together.
Religion and Literature go together.
Religion and Culture go together.
Religion and male rights and lack of women's rights go together.
It was once like that for the Western World. But we are in a different place now.


I really hope it stays that way.


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I think though that we have encouraged a certain group of people who think that it is okay to drive on the wrong side of the road.

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Zen Dog wrote:
I think though that we have encouraged a certain group of people who think that it is okay to drive on the wrong side of the road.



LOL! I'm feeling a little bit singled out here!


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Zen Dog wrote:
I think though that we have encouraged a certain group of people who think that it is okay to drive on the wrong side of the road.

Not quibbling here but don't the USA drive on the "right" hand side of the road. :) Therefore the Right side.


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LOL! :lol:
We do drive on the right side of the road.
But I do not know if you all up there would consider it the "Right" way!


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I was being metaphorical. We have encouraged some people that it is okay to be so different that they believe that they can live by a different legal system to the one operating in our society. I will attempt more clarity from now on.

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