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Here we are again 
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Hmmn.In practical terms,I think these rules may only apply in Australia.I think it was the 70's that she removed a PM via the Governor General (Gough Whitlam?) and our veterans have been campaigning for a National Defence Medal for years that she authorised there.

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I hear all UK PM's visit the Queen often to explain what their up to. I am sure such meetings are dull. Well I guess its cheaper than sleeping pills and more effective than counting sheep.


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Oh I dunno Pete .. sounds like the stuff of nightmares to me! lol

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Are you kiddin'? Apart from day to day administration,the weekly audience covers all aspects of national security and foreign policy.The Queen has provided a consistent perspective for all administrations since Winston Churchill.It's just the PM and the Queen.No others present and no records.I would love to be a fly on the wall of that room.

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well seeing as you put it that way Zen ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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There must come a day when those ancient institutions and values will perish. True spiritual freedom is suffering world wide.

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Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:16 pm
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Sorry there Lu,bit to much altitude for me.Went right over me head.

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I think Hermano was suggesting that such foolish things like the bias against women which seem part of the religious establishment in the C of E today will pass. Most in the church of England cannot understand how they can have a majority vote in favour of getting rid of such prejudice and still loose the case for women Bishops. I am sure they will have their day and then they will view it as the stupidity of the past and wonder what the fuss was about.

I know some think they are being true to their view of the bible but if they read it they would find it is not always the best guide to life. No one mentions the fact that according to the so called God's holy law that you should kill your children who take up a different religion (Zachariah 13:3) or are rude to you (Deuteronomy 21:18-21). No one mentions the fact that in the whole bible there is not one verse that says slavery is wrong and just advises people how to treat slaves as one's personal property in the manner you want except to kill them (Exodus 21:20-21).
The bible says that you can also sell your daughter into slavery (Exodus 21:7). The bible also says you can kill your daughter if she is not a virgin on her wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21).
Lets also note that Matt 5:17-20 says Jesus said the law will not pass away and we should follow it.
Some may call me a heretic but I think those who point to the bible as always a perfect book with always perfect laws for life are either ill informed of just false.

One has (IMO) to use ones common sense in these matters and I see no sense in banning women from being bishops.


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Blimey! And we criticise the Muslims. I expect they'll learn to become more selective in time.

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Well (IMO) the church were just as bad or even worse than some of the extreme Muslims of today.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1676.cfm

I think one of the highest respect I have about anyone of any religion is the ability to question themselves and what they are being told, I also note that where there are no ability to ask questions some terrible things happen.


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